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02-14-2004, 09:53 AM | #1 | ||
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Nameless Things
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In TTT, Chapter - The White Rider, Gandalf is telling the Fangorn trio of his plight with the Balrog and says, in the process... Quote:
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My question: Is this a metaphor/symbol/colorful addition to speech or could Gandalf actually be referring to "Nameless things" which he encountered while battling up the Endless Stair with Durin's Bane? If so, despite being nameles, what might these things be?
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02-14-2004, 10:24 AM | #2 | |||||||
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02-15-2004, 08:41 AM | #3 |
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I've always thought of them as just "monsters", unspecified evil or at least selfish creatures. I also picture the Watcher of the Water as one of them.
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02-15-2004, 10:40 AM | #4 |
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Well, that just about answers my question. Thanks.
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Gee, talking of Monsters, I hope I am not intruding on an existing thread when I ask about the Caradhras? This mountain was described as pretty much alive(!):
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Somehow, it brought to mind how Melkor filled pits with mountains and emptied seas: Quote:
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02-16-2004, 09:09 AM | #6 |
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Caradhras is definitely not a person or monster, but characters do refer to its 'ill will.' Morgoth actually raised all of the Misty Mountains has a wall to hide behind.
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