The Lingering Darkness Planning/Discussion Thread

[Nerindel]

Ok, everyone!

I plan to have the hobbit thief Toby Longholes overhear a conversation between Barrold and Avanill and he will tell Amandur that the two are in cahoots [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

I think then that Léspheria and the rangers will go back to the farm houses where she sensed Naiore, but Naiore will already be gone, some where here we will also find Kaldir et al's trial ahead of us.

is this ok with everyone else?

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Nerindel - I am just starting a post that has Rauthain showing up at the Prancing Pony, I will try to hurry with it and will mention how the gelding's tracks have gone off to the west but it seemed unburdened and the boot marks alongside were of a man's.

Please let me know if I should put in a save before you post.

[Nerindel]

As we are going to use Tallas again I have prepared a short Bio for him, I will also prepare Bios for Dúlrain and Toby Longholes. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Hilde don't worry about putting up a save! I will not be posting again untill Maethor and Rauthain have joined us in the inn. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Name: Tallas

Age: Unknown but looks in his hundredth year.

Race: Man (Unknown origins, The elves suspect he is Dunedain)

Gender: Male

Weapons: Tallas' only weapon appears to be the wooden staff that supports his frail frame, but hidden inside the staff is a long sword with a slender blade.

Appearance: To all appearances Tallas looks to be nothing more than an old hermit, Dressed in a shabby woollen robe, tied at the waist by a well worn brown leather belt.

His shoulder length hair is grey, as are his eyes and beard which is tucked in his belt. He has a wooden staff which supports his seemingly frail body, but these things are deceptive, for in need he is swift and agile.
To those who look years of wisdom and foreknowledge can be seen in his eyes.

Personality/Strength/Weaknesses: Tallas' long years and foresight have made him wise and patient. He will always help those who request his assistance, but he hold no love for those who seek to cause harm to others. He is a solitary man and finds comfort in the peacefulness of the Chetwood.

Although advanced in his years he seems not to have lost much of his ability to wield both staff and sword. Tallas is a peaceful man but when angered a fire burns within that seems to give him added strength.

History: Not much is know of Tallas' history, but nearly all the rangers of the north have dealt with or heard of him.

After the War of the Ring Tallas settled in the calming woods of Chetwood, where he trades medicines and potions with those of a goodly nature. He also is a friend of the elves of Rivendell and Elladan and Elohir. Hearing of his foresight sent him notes that they gather on Naiore and Menecin, hoping his foresight will give clues as to the outcome of their dilemma.

Tallas also helped Léspheria's mother when she sought out her cousin, he also kept notes on Valaindon and her daughter Léspheria foreseeing that all four where connected.

His only notes on Vanwe are his recent sighting of her and what Léspheria has told him.

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Name: Toby Longholes

Age: 58

Race: Hobbit (Breelander)

Gender: Male

Weapons: Dagger and belt knife

Appearance: Toby is 2ft 9" and is thin by the standard of hobbits, he has sharp pointy features, most unusual for one his race and he has dark brown curly hair and keen rich brown eyes.

Toby wears cream/brown shirts, brown trousers that are held up by yellow braces and green waistcoats all made of the finest material his stolen wealth can buy. he also has a brown travelling cloak.

Personality/Strength/Weaknesses:Toby is nearly always complaining about something or other, he hates the peaceful happy hobbits of the shire. When cornered Toby is quick to shift blame to others and will sell out anyone if it saves his own skin or if the price is high enough. He is quite fierce when angered and is proficient with both dagger and knife, he is also extremely stubborn and speaks his mind.

Tobys main strengths is his stealth and his slight of hand that makes him an excellent thief.

His main weakness is his greed and his love of fine ales, when drunk Toby has a loose tongue and boasts alot about his accomplishments.

History: During the war Toby worked for Bill Ferny, he stole for him and spied on the hobbits of the shire, but after Sharkys end he stole back into Bree and hid until his small part was forgotten, but not all forgot and it was not long before Toby was visited by Barrold, Bills cousin, he knew of Tobys skills in thievery and spying on others, he often used him to these ends.

Although Toby holds no love for the villainous scoundrel, together their thievery has become quite profitable, Toby stealing and Barrold selling their bounty to the black market, of course he his aware that Barrold takes the bigger share of the profits, but he pick pockets and none of this he shares with Barrold.

[ October 01, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ]

[Imladris]

Garn!! Gone for a few days and two completely new characters. So there's going to be an attack on the old hermit in Chetwood and is that when everybody comes together and they find out that Menecin is in Imladris? Or do they still come together at the inn...(sorry, in a rush at the library....try to go on the thread again later.)

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Much obliged to you, Nerindel. Now if I can get the durn thing writ up! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Hey Imladris, I believe Maethor should be at the Inn right about now, (if he didn't get side tracked, that is!)

[ October 01, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

[Imladris]

Okay, cool...maybe I can whip up a post for Maethor real quick...

[Elora]

Good stuff Imladris! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Great idea Nerindel! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

Plots, eavesdropping, twisted minds and uncertain allies.... just love it. Gimme some intrigue any day.

Thanks for the bios. They'll be fantastically handy.

Now, as for Vanwe. Some of you may be puzzling over why I put a post up for that character. Afterall, she's not going anywhere or doing anything that advances the RP right now.

I'm laying the groundwork for Vanwe's descent. She has a long way to fall, pushed down the slope by her mother. She'll be betrayed, her life will be threatened... she'll run afoul of Barrold, who will take out his anger and dislike of women and her mother upon Vanwe.

In short, I'm throwing Vanwe into a pit. She needs to be at rock bottom by the time they arrive at Imladris - hopless of any way out, all hope abandoned. I figure that would make Vanwe amenable to entering Imladris so as to get Naiore in. But, she'll get caught also. Vanwe needs not to care about anything, about her life, her future and anything she takes on.

Listless and depressed, careless of herself and therefore easily given tasks to do and easily caught. Naiore is undertaking a long dismantling of any sense of determination, self identity and self worth. She's deconstructing her own child - a ravenning... and she's reaping the "reward" which is Vanwe's distress, pain, anguish and rage.

The only thing that saves Vanwe is that she does get caught and her mother's arts can no longer weave about her constantly.

Vanwe has to sink to rock bottom to know her own mettle and to understand what she is actually capable of.

So, my last Vanwe post had her on the beginning of the slide. Plus, it was an opportunity for Lespheria to know for certain that Vanwe was in Bree somewhere. It occured to me that Naiore could have quite easily killed Vanwe and dumped her on the trail. So that deals with any doubt on that score.

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[Hilde Bracegirdle]

There you go Nerindel, the gang's all here! Please let me know if there is anything that needs to be changed, not that there is much meat in the post!

Nice to see Maethor made it, I was worried with all the villianous thugs about! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Speaking of thugs, where is Avanill? Did he enter the Inn Everdawn?

[Nerindel]

Hey everyone,
I've just edited my last post for Léspheria, I re-read my last post and didn't like it [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] so I changed it slightly. It also occurred to me that not many elves would have passed through Bree, so Léspheria's presence would be noted in the inn.


Ok, now I am at a loss, The rangers are ready (I think) to go search the farm houses where Léspheria sensed Naiore.

But I think we are waiting for Kaldir to find Naiores trail, Barrold to met with Avanill, (so Toby can over hear something profitable) and for Naiore to leave???

I'm not trying to rush anyone I just want to be sure this is where we are at [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[Elora]

I'll be leaving Barrold out where he is so that Kaldir can bump into him and Toby can overhear the conversation.


Naiore will be moving to a safer spot near Bree in the early hours of the morning, so that should Barrold's house be searched she is not found. She will leave Vanwe behind, and return to collect Vanwe, Barrold, Avanill and set off.

I have a plan for Vanwe, should the Rangers come and search Barrold's house. She'll still be disorientated. I ask that she won't be found in that search, however she will witness the Rangers looking which will terrify her (given her aversion to legitmate representatives of authority).

Barrold will deflect the search of the cellar, secreting her away in a nasty place (a filthy cupboard somewhere in the house). Then, once the search turns up nothing (aside from the missing silver dinner service someone had taken from their house a few months ago), Barrold will gather the supplies, recruit Avanill and leave with Vanwe for Naiore's bolthole.

[Everdawn]

Speaking of thugs, where is Avanill? Did he enter the Inn Everdawn?
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Ah! Yes he did!

[Nerindel]

Thanks Elora that helps alot,
for that to work we will have to find a distraction for Léspheria for she would surely sense and find Vanwe if they where in the same building, she would also know if Barrold was lying he is man and much easier to read. hmm.. yes I will have to think on that one!!

EverdawnAn elf in Bree should stand out in Avanill's mind, as it is not common to see one in Bree let alone one in the company of four rangers. [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Thanks for the clarification folks, I was wondering how we were going to move on from this point. Always nice to have it down in green & black to refer to!

Nerindel That was a good way to get the rangers moving again. Many thanks! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ealasaide, are you out there? Methinks the real world has swept you up! [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img]

[ October 05, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

[Ealasaide]

Hi, gang! Sorry it has been so long since my last post...real life has stepped ALL over my writing time this week. I don't think I have been able to sit down at the computer for more than five minutes to check my e-mail since sometime on Monday. I hope I haven't held things up too badly.

I PROMISE a post from Kaldir this evening. Hopefully, I will get something in for Benia as well.

Nerindel thanks for the Bio, I will look it over right now & get back to you via PM if I have any comments. The new bios on the thread look great, by the way.

[piosenniel]

Your tenacious fan checking in once to again to tell you how much I am enjoying the development of the story!

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[Elora]

Piosenniel Aw shucks, we're blushing! [img]smilies/redface.gif[/img] [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Ealasaide I hope all is well. We're patient souls and Barrold is perfectly happy to chatter to himself in the dark! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

Actually, the delay works in favour of the story. Naiore will move herself and leave word for Barrold in a cunning fashion. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[Nerindel]

Hey everyone,
Met Dúlrain [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Name: Dúlrain

Age: 39

Race: Man (Dunedain)

Gender: Male

Weapons: Arthedain Broad sword, a jewel encrusted companion sword, given to him by a wealthy young woman in gratitude of his assistance when she and her companions were waylaid by bandits on the west road, he also carries a belt knife and a crude long bow, his dark green quiver hangs from his belt rather than his back. Dúlrain carries a second sword, which he wields only against orcs, it once belonged to a close friend who was killed by orcs at Raven Falls (or so he believes).

[b]Appearance:[B] Dúlrain is tall, lean and muscular like most of his kin, his hair is raven black and sits to his shoulders, He is darkly tanned and his eyes are a soft, kind, gentle grey. Dúlrain is lucky enough not to be marred with many battle scars infact the only prominent one is a scar left from an arrow wound to his left shoulder.

Like most of his brethren he clads himself in browns and greens of the forest, His dark Brown boots and cloak are well worn and weather beaten from his many travels.

Personality/Strength/Weaknesses: Dúlrain is intelligent, strong willed, brave, confident and practical, he speaks his mind when he feels it is necessary and is generally of good humour though it is said by many that his humour has grown somewhat Sarcastic and dry over the years. To those he calls friends he is loyal and trustworthy. He is generally undaunted by the evils of the world believing that good always prevails. He is loyal to his king and is always completely at his disposal, he never doubted that Aragorn would take his rightful place as King of the reunited kingdoms.

Dúlrain's strengths are his expert swordsmanship, his speed and his agility, these being the main reason why he bares little scar of battle, he is proficient with bow and his eyes are keen. He prefers to leave tracking to others, but his speed and agility make him an excellent scout and he is always cautious, ready for what ever may be around the bend!

Dúlrain's handsome features and soft gentle eyes have always attracted women to him, giving him the reputation of being a bit of a ladies man, but he is not arrogant with it. Those who know him know that he has a weakness for women in distress and will willingly risk his life to protect the fairer sex.


History: Dúlrain was raised by his father in the wilds of the north, a dangerous and harsh upbringing that has made him the ranger he is today. Dúlrain has been fortunate to have rode and fought in the company of both Amandur and Hanasían.

Dúlrain was with Amandur when they met the remnants of the battle of Raven falls, when Elendir and his company had failed to return at the expected hour, Amandur and a few others, Dúlrain included where sent to see what had happened to them. Dúlrain was concerned as a close childhood friend rode in that company. On rendezvousing with Elendir's company he was dismayed to hear that his friend was lost, but although he search for his friends body he never found it, but he did find his kins sword and his blood soaked cloak torn and discarded by the river. The war ended his search and he rode to Gondor with the grey company.

After the war he joined Hanasían and aided the Rangers of Ithilien in their search for the criminals of the dark tower. He knows nothing of Kaldir's capture or his years of imprisonment in Mordor, nor that his friend yet lives and is following the path of a bounty hunter. Dúlrain believes Kaldir was killed by the orcs at Raven Falls and his body was lost to the river.

He was with Hanasian when they hunted the remnants of Sauron's elite followers, he had wavered and stayed his bow as a beautiful elven woman ran from the hut he and the archers of Ithilien had surrounded, it was only her cold callous laughter, which chilled him to the bones, that reminded him of the monster that she really was, the pain and torment she had caused to so many came flooding back and even as she used one of her companions as a shield he let loose his arrows angered at his hesitation.

For the past six months Dúlrain has watched the south downs for signs of Naiore the last of Saurons Revennor's and the most deadly and elusive of all his servants it is said and having seen and tracked her for many years he does not refute these claims.

While on guard he caught sight of one who had long been thought lost, but as he approached the figure disappeared, he searched long but found nothing, but when he decided to leave he saw the man again and was sure that it was Hanasíans father, but again as he approached he disappeared so he rode at once to find Hanaísan.

he found Hanasian just Southeast of Bree, and told him what he had seen, Hanasían then bid him to ride to Bree and join with Amandur and a few others of their brethren, telling him that the trail for Naiore had again grown warm.

[Imladris]

Nice to see Maethor made it, I was worried with all the villianous thugs about!

LOL, Hilde.

About Vanwe: she had a conection with Hanasian, right? Well, from what I understand, wasn't that conection rather important to story? What will become of that?

I'm sorry if I'm being annoying, but I just have to know!

[Ealasaide]

Okay, Elora, I've posted with Kaldir. He and Barrold are alone outside Bree. I started the conversation, but since I wasn't sure how to proceed with Barrold, I left it open for you to carry on.

Basically, I see Kaldir as trying to get as much information as possible out of Barrold without getting hostile or giving too much of his own business away.

[Elora]

Her connection with Hanasian was of some importance, but Hanasian's absence is not insurmountable even we do miss Snowdog's wonderful contributions. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Hanasian was the first and singular authority figure that she trusted. That trust bond was strong enough for Vanwe to consider offering Hanasian all she knew of her mother.

I had planned to use that bond as impetus for Vanwe to choose to throw her lot in with Hanasian's Ranger companions later on into the story. Now I will have to find a way for Vanwe to build a bond with another character at some later point.

I anticipate doing this once Vanwe reaches Imladris. She narrowly avoids Kaldir, only to fall into the waiting watch over Imladris. Elladan and Elrohir will naturally wish to question her, particularly as she seems to be in cohoots with her mother. She will also encounter her father for the first time there.

In short, it will be a tumultuous time for the Elf and those friendships will be one of the few things that will help her find her way through.

My sketchy thoughts on this have Vanwe forging a deeper bond with Lespheria at Imladris (something I had planned on doing all along) and also forming a bond with another Ranger. Otherwise, the prospect of joining a group of Rangers would be too implausible for Vanwe to consider. She has learnt to avoid those in power, for they can hurt to most. Such is her lesson from the Haradwaithe.

Hence the friendship with one Ranger will be instrumental in Vanwe moving past this as she needs to if she is to make her life in the North.

Does that help?

Nerindel, great profile. Nice to meet Dulrain. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[Everdawn]

EverdawnAn elf in Bree should stand out in Avanill's mind, as it is not common to see one in Bree let alone one in the company of four rangers.

I was thinking about that. Thanks for pointing it out... i am biding my time. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[Imladris]

That does help, Elora. I had thought you wanted Vanwe to join the Rangers, but I didn't exactly realize just how you were going to do it. Thanks a bunch.

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Nice volley there between Kaldir and Barrold. Very enjoyable reading!

[Ealasaide]

Thanks, Hilde! [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Question: Does anyone know what the exchange rate is in Middle Earth? What would the equivalent values be for one gold piece, one silver piece, etc, in, say, US Dollars?

I'm a little boggled, here.

[Elora]

I have no earthly idea, Easalsaide (good work too, btw [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img] ). I know this is a matter of conjecture.

Perhaps we could come up with a rough scale. Excuse my calcularions and I can't guarantee that they're in USD as I'm Australian and my mind works in ASD [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] (Lame joke there, folks).

OK. Let's take the rough prices for metals

1 gold coin = $50

1 silver coin = $10

I copper coin = $1

That's just off the top of my head. If we wanted to, we could decide value by looking at current metal prices and caluculating on ounce weight of the coins.... but who is to say that's any more valid than the above scale?

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[Ealasaide]

That scale works for me! Thanks, Elora!

I will go by that Rate of Value henceforth. (Actually, I think I will go back & edit one of my Kaldir posts with Tupper. I had no idea what the exchange rate was when I wrote it, so the dialogue is WAY off.)

[Elora]

I'm a little hesitant to impose an arbitrary value and I'm sure others will have their own estimations of the worth of varying coinage.

Just wanted to say that I don't expect you to back track and edit just based on my estimations. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

I was just tossing out something, grist for the mill so to speak.

[Everdawn]

I'm Australian and my mind works in ASD

Ditto, im in Brisbane.

I had no idea what the exchange rate was when I wrote it, so the dialogue is WAY off.)

Yeah, have you seen one of my posts, where Avanill is told by the old man to sell the potion at a price? I look at it now and it is unbelieveable. Ill have to go back and fix it up. Now that we have a rough list it will make things easier, (espesh. for Avanill who is a blackmarket trader) Thanks Elora! [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: Everdawn ]

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Sounds good to me too Elora. Hmm, I wonder how much it would cost for a cup of coffee? One copper? Outragous! Why in my day you could get at least 3 cups for that! [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

[Nerindel]

arg! 60gold = $3000 and Amandur thought he got a got a good deal [img]smilies/eek.gif[/img] I think I might change that, info on Barrold isn't worth that much [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img] [img]smilies/tongue.gif[/img]

But thanks for the scale that will help alot [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img] by the way have we decided on how much the bounty is for Naiore?

ok I've got side tracked again, what I was going to say was that I have posted again [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]

Toby is following and eavesdropping on Barrold and Kaldir, Lespheria and Amandur have left the inn and are watching the house where Lespheria believes she sensed Naiore.

perhaps Rauthain and Maethor could run into the two scoundled that both Ealasaide and I mentioned in our posts, and pump them for info! [img]smilies/evil.gif[/img]

I am still perplexed as what to do about Léspheria, She has not sensed Vanwe so she must be unconscious, but when she regains consiousness and witnesses the rangers searching the house, when Barrold returns, Lespheria will have to be else where?

hmm perhaps Naiore can throw her a bone? yes! perhaps as they prepare to enter the house, Léspheria senses Naiore further afield drawing her away from the house, Oh yes, perhaps it is Léspheria that leads Kaldir to Naiore, just a thought. Ealasaide and Elora your input might be helpful here [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

[ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ]

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

I was also trying to figure out were to go from here.

Perhaps Toby could overhear Barrold grumbling regarding having to meet Her on Bree Hill (such a nasty climb in the dark) and offer the info. to Amandur just before Rauthain & Maethor arrive. I imagine Amandur could sight him walking home, and Toby would also have opportunity to let slip Kaldir’s location.

Amandur & Léspheria could let Rauthain & Maethor know they are headed (to find Naiore) before setting off.

Rauthain & Maethor could make the ruckus at the old farmstead!

Please note that Rauthain would be interested to know whether Lespheria had felt Vanwe’s presence. If she hadn’t that would give him a reason to break into the farmhouse (to see that there had not been a murder) and thereby frighten Vanwe in her delirium.

Could Naiore have managed to get Vanwe in the closet earlier and Barrold head straight to meet her after disposing of the horse and bumping into Kaldir?

Just another angle.

[Ealasaide]

I am getting lost. Please tell me if this is correct:

Kaldir has finished speaking with Barrold & is on his way back to his camp.

Barrold has just re-entered Bree by the west gate.

Toby Longholes is still outside of Bree's west gate, having barely missed being caught by Kaldir.

Naiore is holed up somewhere on Bree Hill.

Benia & Gilly are in Kaldir's camp on the north outside of Bree.

Amandur, Lespheria are watching Barrold's house. (Which presents a problem... how will Barrold get Vanwe out if the house is being watched?)

Rhauthain, Maethor, Dulrain, & Avanill are all at the Prancing Pony.

Vanwe is in Barrold's cellar.

Did I miss anyone?

From here we need (not necessarily in order):
1) Avanill to hook up with Barrold et al.

2) Barrold needs to fetch Vanwe & move her to where Naiore is waiting.

3) Naiore finds out where Menecin is & changes plans, heading for Rivendell rather than the Shire.

4) Barrold raids Tallas' supplies.

5) Rangers raid empty house.

6) Naiore sets off for Rivendell, followed by Kaldir, then the Rangers.

7) Kaldir needs to fetch his horse & prisoners before setting off after Naiore.

Is this what is happening? If I have gotten something wrong, please let me know. We need to get Naiore on the Road to Rivendell!

[ October 07, 2003: Message edited by: Ealasaide ]

[Elora]

That's my grasp of the situation too Easalaide. [img]smilies/smile.gif[/img]

Barrold will organise Vanwe when he returns. Nerindel's idea of Naiore luring her and Amandur away to allow Barrold access to sort things out below works.

Then again, without a reason to search, perhaps Vanwe could overhear voices and the bootsteps of Rangers in her confusion down in the cellar. She won't be very conscious, so the sounds will merge with nightmare.

I plan to have Naiore on her way by sundown of the next day, hopefully earlier.

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Does this mean Elora, that the rangers need to get out of there before Barrold arrives, or is he coming in between groups of rangers -if Amandur goes with Lespheria- or when Amandur is alone waiting for Maethor and Rauthain. Perhaps they should leave before he arrives, so it is easier for him to do the needful.

[Elora]

Sorry Hilde... I've been a little distracted radically reworking the plot planning for my own work. ( [img]smilies/rolleyes.gif[/img] )

I think it best to keep it simple....

Provided the Rangers don't rifle through the house and cellar, Vanwe can remain where she is. That way, Barrold only has to arrive if it is necessary for the thug to speak with Lespheria or the Rangers. Provided that he doesn't trip over his own feet on his way back through Bree, that should be easy to arrange.

If that is the case, then that should make for an interesting exchange. If it is not necessary for Barrold to have a verbal exchange, then Barrold will certainly note that some has been looking about and be none too pleased about it.

In the first scenario, I will need to post soon to place Barrold where he needs to be for the story to move forward. If this is the option that people prefer, then please let me know.

If not, then I'll post for Barrold after the Rangers have searched around (but not through the cellar) and take him into the following morning when he will start to organise supplies.

Does that make more sense? I hope so, as today I have been confusing myself left, right and centre. Would make for a nice change.

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[Hilde Bracegirdle]

Do you have any preference Nerindel or Imladris? It doesn’t matter so much to me as long as I know which it is.

One thing though that I do have trouble with is the idea that the rangers could search a house and not realize a cellar is there. If the house is locked (padlocked on the outside of the door) and shuttered, the rangers could conceivably leave without a search, as it would appear no one was at home. But then again to my mind, it depends on if they think Vanwe or her body might be there.

[Hilde Bracegirdle]

How about this senerio?

The rangers meet up at Ferny's and wait in the shadows, (They had seen the geldings prints and Rauthain recognizes Ferny boot and stride as the one with the horse an the other side of town)

Barrold returns home and the ranger’s question him. He offers to show them his house to get them off his back.

During the search Barrold places himself in front of a piece of beaded wainscoting that hides the entrance to the secret compartment of the cellar.

When ranger’s get to close he mentions how another of his associates asked him to get rid of a horse today (trying to throw them off). He gives them a name of another thug.

The rangers ask to see the cellar and he takes them to an outside entrance to the main part of the cellar.

The rangers then are outside, when Léspheria who had remained outside feels Naiore off toward Bree hill, and they leave.

If you want Léspheria to have left earlier, the rest of the rangers could go after the guy Barrold mentioned, but they would want someone to keep on eye on Barrold (perhaps the ranger Vanwe gets to know). But all this would make it difficult for the rangers who are left to catch the trail again.

[ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Hilde Bracegirdle ]

[Nerindel]

ok to make life easier I am going to edit my last post, so the rangers are searching Bree for sign or word of Naiore, with Léspheria and Amandur searching the south side of town and Rauthain and Maethor searching the north side, eventually meeting up in the middle of town, having found nothing.

Dúlrain will come across master Longholes and bring him before Amandur, where he will spill the beans on Kaldir and Barrolds conversation, this should bring them to morning.

They will then force Toby to take them to Barrolds hide out, but Both Barrold and Vanwe will already be gone, believing Naiore already fled, they head back into the woods to pick up her trail.

instead of Naiores trail they find Kaldir's and Knowing that he too searches for Naiore they follow his trail, that way we are back on track, Kaldir tracking Naiore et al and The rangers tracking Kaldir et al.

The rangers can then split up when Tallas is attacked, Rauthain, Maethor and Dúlrain continueing on as Léspheria and Amandur go to find Tallas.

Does this sound plausable to everyone???

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oops sorry Hilde it looks like we where puzzling over the same thing, But I do not think that having Léspheria near the house will work she would sense Vanwe's sudden fear and apprehension as the Rangers searched the house.

As for sensing Naiore I have decided that Naiore is too far away, It has been noted the Lespheria's abilities are giving her an unfair advantage, so I have decided to limit them, she can only sense the emotions of those near by, ok [img]smilies/wink.gif[/img]

As for Barrolds place, perhaps Rauthain and Maethor can search the grounds of the farm (unaware as yet that it belongs to Barrold)find it in darkness and disrepair an assume it abandoned, this way Vanwe could over heard some of their conversation regarding their hunt for her and her mother. *Shrugs* just a thought.

[ October 08, 2003: Message edited by: Nerindel ]

[Ealasaide]

Sounds good to me, everyone!

I will have to do some pondering & figure out how Kaldir will find Naiore, et al, and get back on her trail before the Rangers. At the moment I am thinking that he will look for Barrold Ferney at a place he has been known to conceal fugitives in the past. There he will find evidence of Naiore, but she will have already moved on. He will follow her trail from there. And the Rangers will follow his trail.

Right now, though, Kaldir is heading back to his camp. That will give you all a chance to get your action taken care of before I mobilize him again sometime the next day. [img]smilies/biggrin.gif[/img]